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Todd: So Mark, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

Mark: I'm 31.

Todd: 31. OK, and so you probably don't remember but like... I'm 37 and I remember watching television with no remote control. Like just the big square box you have to go up and turn.

Mark: Yeah, I remember that.

Todd: Was it the same when you were a kid?

Mark: That's right. I think I actually had a TV like that up until about ten years ago when I was at a university student.

Todd: Really.

Mark: Yeah, you just pressed on the button.

Todd: You know actually, the remote control is so much more convenient but I actually miss having to turn the knob because you don't have so many choices. You know. Like, you pick a channel and you stick with it and then you watch it, but with the remote control you just want to flick, flick, flick.

Mark: Yeah, I call it flick-a-vision. Yeah. I quite like flick-a-vision.

Todd: So what's flick-a-vision?

Mark: Well, just when you watch each channel for maybe a minute or two and then change, change, change, change. Yeah, I often do that. Like you say you don't focus on the whole program.

Todd: Right. And it's terrible when you're sitting with somebody else and they have the remote control and they keep flicking away.

Mark: Right, that causes a lot of family fights in my house. Yeah.

Todd: Well, actually, you are a newly married man, so do you have any remote control wars with your wife?

Mark: Recently no. Not at the moment because I am living in a very small house with a small room. It's quite easy to get up and turn over the TV without using the remote. But we're not fighting at the moment but I can see in the future we will be so the key there is probably to have two rooms with two TVs.